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Ep27 Creating Personal; Altars

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Hello, hello, hello, everybody. Hello, my friends all over the world wherever you are, whenever you're listening to this. Today I am going to talk well, I'm going to take a practical, I'm going to do a very hopefully practical meaning you can take what I talked about today and put it into practice in a way that is beneficial to you. So I'm going to take a practical approach today. Today I'm going to talk about altars, personal altars. I'm talking about why you might have a personal altar, what to do at a personal altar? How to set up a personal altar, what not to do maybe set up a personal altar. Excuse me? And what are the benefits of having personal altars? And you may have more than one and what are different kinds of altars and all kinds of stuff. I'm not talking about altars today. It's a topic. It's a topic that I love, is everything I talk about. Because I get to pick the topics. It's my podcast, isn't that cool. I'm also happy to talk about things that other people are interested in hearing about. And if you contact me through my website, or social media, or however, certainly I would be happy to entertain topics, I probably would not talk about something that I had no clue about. Because that would be a very short podcast and, you know, I don't like just, I try not to just make stuff up. do my best. Don't think I ever don't think ever have on these podcasts things are certainly my opinion and whatnot. So today we're going to talk about an altar. And, you know, we we all know what an altar is. We've all seen altars maybe you've been in church or temple, or you might live in a culture where you have some sort of spiritual altar in your home. If you're not, if you're not religious, Surely you've seen TV programs or you know, whatever were movies where altars have been represented. So, you know, what is an altar? Is it just a table? You know, where religious things happen? Well, in a way, yes and no. So, um, you know, one thing that I know and notice is that altars exist in all kinds of all kinds of spiritual traditions, right? And I don't just mean organized religions, where you go to a church or a temple or mosque or synagogue or whatever, and there's there's a, you know, there's an altar up front where religious ceremony is held, but there are lots of traditions going back to the beginning of humanity, where altars you know, altars were a place of spiritual focus. I know that in you know, Indian cultures, Indian shamanic cultures, you know, they would lay out a cloth on the ground that would become an an altar. I know in Shinto traditions, you know, in Japan, you know, many many maybe even most families have a Kami Donna or you know, a shelf in their home for the spirits is of type of altar and my my opinion we could perhaps differ on whether or not that constitute an altar, but I believe that it sir serves the purpose of of being an altar. Um, in ancient Norse cultures, they would have there were, you know, there were religious temples where people would do pilgrimages to and gather and feast and do sacrifices and that sort of thing, but they also had outdoor altars, that they would, you know, that they would set up and worship and I believe they would have indoor altars where they would have images of the gods that they worshipped, you know, that, that sort of thing. So, and might I add,

there is some evidence from prehistoric peoples of, you know, skulls of cave bears and things being arranged in ways that would indicate, you know, would indicate them being used in religious rites in a way that is similar to similar to and an altar. And so, you know, that have altars are things that are cross cultural and throughout time, and, you know, you may have a personal altar, you may not, or you may be wondering about why should have an altar. So, for me, an altar is a, you know, I always, and I say this almost every time, I always define my terms, just so that you can understand what I'm what I'm meaning to say, it is not to say that my definition is the definition, or if you looked it up in the dictionary, the dictionary might differ. Or if you asked a, you know, religious scholar from Oxford, what, what his or her definition was, the definition might differ, and that's fine. I'm not trying to present myself as, as the authority on definitions of things, I just want you to understand what I mean when I'm when I'm talking about this. So. So to me, an altar is a is a special surface. Um, excuse me, I do not edit these. And so when I, if I have a little, little coffee, go down the wrong pipe just a moment ago, I may cough a little bit, and I'm gonna leave that in because I am. I am imperfect, and my podcast will be imperfect. And I don't, I don't really, I don't really edit them. So coughs and sneezes, and I don't think I've ever burped or farted, but if I did, who knows, I might leave, probably leave that into. Um, so anyway, and alter is a special surface, where that that is a focus of spiritual activity. Okay, so if you think about, you know, in a Christian church, an altar is, you know, probably some sort of special table at the front of the church, maybe up on, you know, up on risers up above, and it is a place where, you know, communion might be prepared or, you know, special, you know, candles and flowers are placed. And, you know, you know, it's a place where ritual might take place. So it is, is a surface, a special surface where a prepared surface, that is a place of spiritual focus. And a lot of people might have little altars that they meditate in front of right, might be a little table where they place I don't know, an image of Buddha or some other, you know, spiritual figure, or light a candle or put some incense or that sort of thing, right. So again, it's a specially prepared surface. That is a focus, a spiritual focus or focus of spiritual practice or focus of worship. And why do they show up everywhere? Why do we see these in so many traditions and so many cultures across generations and generations of human beings and who knows, maybe someday they'll discover that, you know, other hominid species had alters, I don't know, I don't know enough about paleo, anthropology to speak intelligently about that, so I won't but You know, what I will say is that this seems to be an important or impactful practice having an altar seems to create an impact a spiritual psychological impact, having a special place to help spiritual focus, a specially prepared surface to have spiritual focus seems to have an impact on people enough that it has become an important if not absolutely critical part of many, many spiritual practices.

Now, if you were to walk around, if you were to walk around my house, and even outside my house, you would see many, many altars numerous, you would see numerous surfaces that I have prepared for spiritual use, or for spiritual focus. And the reason I have different altars or, you know, a number of different altars is that for me, they provide different they serve different purposes, they serve different focuses. So, for example, I have, I have an outdoor altar that serves as a way for me to focus on and present offerings, and I'll talk about offerings today as well. Present offerings to the nature spirits that are, you know, local, you know, local spirits are important, at least to me, and to many other people, but definitely, to me, and so, I place offerings there and I you know, I have a special place for them for, you know, where I can focus on them and interact and have a good relationship. So this altar allows me to be in relationship with these spirits. And that's another important use, right? It's to be in relationship with spirit if you have you know, if you were of the you know, if you practice shintoism you would have a Cami Donna, which would be you know, how's spirits in your home and it would allow you to make offerings and, um, you know, have a relationship with those spirits and in hopes of you know, providing safety and providing harmony and watching out for you. And this you know, we see this tradition, similar tradition would have different words for it, the ultra might look different, but it you know, very similar, very similar traditions throughout the world. So, I, you know, so I have alters that allow me to just the sort of keep permanently that allowed me to have an ongoing relationship and I you know, in my spiritual practice is shamanism and shamanism is all about being in relationship to spirit, and to spirits, to the different spirits that we interact with. So, it is about creating, you know, good relationships with spirits and maintaining them. And, and, you know, this particular altar does that the center of my house, I have some shelves that actually have a couple of different, let you know, a couple of different altars on them. And, you know, one is akin to material things that has some representations of deities that are provide materially and not to, you know, not to sound like, you know, money grubbing or greedy or anything like that. But this is the center of my home, and I am a provider for my family. And these are, you know, this is an important consideration if I were living in you know, if I were living in a hunter gatherer society, you know, I would have a similar altar that perhaps had images of animals that I needed to hunt for, to sustain my family or sustain my tribe. So this is a similar, this is a similar thing. This is not about hoarding, cash or you know, buying buying apples private plane, I have no aspirations to buy a private plane, anything like that, it was just about allowing me to provide safety and food and a home and clothing and material necessities for my family and myself to, to live to be comfortable to be safe and to not be threatened and, you know, that sort of thing. And it has served me very well.

You know, I'll do, I'll probably do a podcast on money on the spiritual aspects of money. At some point in the future, I think there are, gosh, a whole lot of misconceptions about that. But that is a little bit beyond the scope of a little bit beyond the scope of this particular episode I get because I Gosh, I could go down that pathway, at least for an entire episode. So maybe the next one I'll do about money in the spiritual aspects of money and, you know, that sort of thing. So, um, so I have that, and then there is, you know, an altar that is sort of dedicated to divinatory practice, meaning I, you know, have my decks of tarot cards there. And I have several pendulums there, and I have images of some of the spirits that I work with, you know, sculptures and that sort of thing. There. So, yeah, so and then I have, I have another altar elsewhere in my house that has representations of all the power animals that I work with, again, this is about me being in relationship with them. I have, gosh, I have a lot of altars, I have another ultra that as representations of the traditional elements of Earth, Wind, water, and fire, earth, air, water and fire, however you want to put it allows me to be in relationship to those elements. And, you know, amongst others, you know, I have a few others, I'm not going to go through all of them, I don't want to bore you. And I guess I'm kind of an ultra fanatic. But I have an altar where I do very specific ceremonies, very specific rituals. And I did a podcast on ritual and ceremony before ritual is symbolic action, right ritual is something that we do that is symbolic. So you know, when I trained, I trained martial arts my whole life when I enter a dojo space I bow, that is a symbolic action of respect, it is a ritual that I'm doing. Or a ritual might be, you know, I do a certain chance and perform a certain set of exercises. And a ceremony is something that's done to mark that a special occasion that includes ritual. So a ceremony might be like a wedding ceremony, right? A wedding ceremony might include numbers, lots of rituals or a ritual, but it marks out it marks a special occasion in time which is the creation of a marriage. And you know, other spiritual things are ceremonial, right they they mark out something something special and we have ceremonies you know birthday celebrations are you know include ceremonies at least in you know, at least in the US we have you know when not you know our our you know tradition I'm comfortable with I'm I grew up in we have birthday cake and we put candles on it normally one candle for every year the person was born, I guess up until they become a certain age and then it becomes a fire hazard. And you know, we sing to the person and they blow the they make a wish and blow the candles out. That is a ceremony marks a special occasion and includes ritual action, like the blowing out the you know, the candles representing each year of birth, the blowing out of the candles. We may not think of that as a spiritual or religious ceremony because it's very light hearted. But in essence it is because it's still symbolic action. It's still metaphorical, it's still you know, is meant to convey something through symbolism. In the ceremony aspect is That it's marks out, you know, years passing of a year in somebody's life. So anyway, that's ritual and ceremony. And so, I have an altar where I do certain ceremonies, I make offerings. And I told you I would talk talk about offerings. So why might you want to create a personal altar if you don't have one already,

there are lots of reasons there are probably as many reasons as there are people if not more, I have obviously, I have more than one altar that I use for different reasons. But again, it's a place is a specially prepared surface that allows for certain spiritual focus to take place. So, if you meditate or you want to meditate, you might create a small altar where you can, you know, that helps you focus the helps you focus your attention when you meditate or something that is inspiring, because an altar has the ability to impact us on a spiritual level and a psychological level, right is a physical representation, that allows us to focus to create atmosphere, to have a psychological impact, the things you place on an altar are important things you choose not to place on an altar are important. The size and shape of an altar aren't all that important. So, in my, when I teach, when I teach shamanism in classes, I you know, I talk to people about creating creating their own altar is fairly important practice in shamanism. And, you know, I have people from all walks of life who live in have different living arrangements, and they, you know, might live in a tiny apartment or they might live in a huge house or who knows, right and so, space is sometimes a consideration. So, a shelf can be an altar, or a window sill can be an altar. You can also have, and this is common in many traditions as well, you can also have a temporary altar, when I teach in the space where there is no no altar surface, I will set up a temporary altar, I put a I will put out a special cloth on the ground, I will set candles, it means a square, square altar cloth, and I will place candles on on each of the corners and I will put a bowl of flowers in the middle. And people will place sacred objects on and around the altar. And this becomes the altar for the time that I'm teaching the class you know, maybe a two day class or or what have you. It does not have to be a permanent fixture. Now there are advantages to having permanent altars, right? Like the more the more focus you put on something, the more sort of energy it gathers. Right. So there is there is this effect. I don't have a good term for it yet, I got to think of one but you know, if you've ever done this experiment as a as a kid, maybe you did it in school, where you took you took a piece of metal, maybe it was on a nail or a screw or something right. And you took a permanent magnet and you rubbed the magnet or you rub the nail over the magnet or you rub the magnet over the nail in the same direction over and over and over and over again. And the nail became magnetized right the magnetic like the magnet changed the configuration of the ions in the nail and it became magnetic and then you could you maybe not as strong as the permanent magnet but it did you can magnetize things that way or you can magnetize metal bypassing them through you know electromagnetic fields while that is passing through magnetic field but generated by electricity. So

So the same thing happens with the same things happens on a spiritual level. That when we work with something spiritually, its spiritual essence gets rearranged over time. The more you work with something, the more sort of power it gets imbued with or the more in alignment with its spiritual purpose. And I'll give you an example of that. I may give you a couple examples. So there are lots of traditions that use prayer beads, right? I know they're used, for example, in Catholicism to count prayers, you know, they're used in Hindu traditions and, and Buddhist traditions to count repetitions of chance. There probably other traditions that have something similar where you're counting the number of chance and so you know, if you have a set of prayer beads, so, you know, in, in Hindu and Buddhist tradition, I think they're always called mala beads, but I'll say they're called mala beads. For my purposes, I could be you know, if I'm, if I miss speaking or mispronouncing, forgive me, feel free to send me a message and correct me. Um, I mean, no disrespect, I'm just, you know, using the terms I know. So you have these mala beads, and you chant and you count the number of times you chant. And so in Hinduism and Buddhism, traditionally there would be 108 of those, it's a sacred number. And so you would count you know, 108 mantra, chants, mantra repetitions with that Mallaby set of mala beads. Now, I have been taught, and people may have been taught something different, that if I recite different mantras, right, so I have, you know, one mantra will say, oh, money by my home, let's say that I chant that mantra. And then I have another mantra that I chant Ohm Naivasha via or something, that I should use a different set of mala beads for each mantra. And the reason for that is that as I'm using that over and over again, it becomes imbued with the power and intention of that particular mantra. And if I chant a different mantra over the same beads, it's sort of like erasing the work that I did before or confusing, or that sort of thing, right. So this, this object, this stream of string of beads, is no longer just a string and beads, it becomes a sacred, spiritually charged object. That helps me as I continue to do this practice. So in shamanism, we work with different tools, I might work with a drum, I might work with rattles, right. And, you know, we might do ceremony to empower these tools to be sacred objects. And that's an important, you know, important part of the practice. However, we also continually work with them, right. So the more I work with clients, and you know, I'm drumming or I'm teaching a class and I'm drumming again, I'm using this for the same purpose and it gets imbued with the energy that is around it, just like rubbing a magnet over a now you have to do it in the same direction. If you rub it in the different direction, it's going to D magnetize. The nail so so the same thing happens. So this is the thing with altars as well if you have an altar and I'm in this is not to say that you have you have to be ultra crazy like I am, and have a ton of different single purpose altars. You certainly can have an altar or an altar piece or an altar space that that serves multiple purposes, they should be sort of aligned, you know, the more you can make them aligned, the better. So, you know, if I have an altar where I meditate and I have, you know, certain deities on there, I should make sure that they're, they're compatible.

This is not to say you can't have syncretistic altars where you have deities from multiple pantheons but make sure they're compatible. Sometimes that's not sometimes that's not really okay. And I've heard stories of I've heard stories of people Well not really know what they are knowing what they were doing, perhaps creating an altar, where they put representations of certain African deities on. And there were two deities on there that traditionally were enemies. And this cause a significant amount of strife until it was remedied by somebody who knew what they were doing. So, just be careful, you know, be it does sort of, serve us well, to know what we're doing. Um, you know, there is I'm not, you know, I'm not really love in light, spiritual person, I believe in love and light. I love everyone, I believe in the power of light. But I also believe that the brighter brighter the light, the darker the shadow, and that there are, you know, the idea that all deity or all spirit or all whatever is altruistic and beneficence doesn't always pan out really well and sort of ignores ignores things that are true in other cultures. You know, it's sort of, in my opinion, it's a little bit of spiritual. I don't know, spiritual optimism, but it's it's sort of cockeyed optimism and that it's overlooking some things that there are, that there are wrathful deities, there are stories of, you know, data is being at war. So I. So for example, if I were, you know, if I were following the ancient Norse Pantheon, I probably would not put a representation of Odin and a representation of a storm giant on the same altar. Almost, I really wanted to cause some strife. So here's it, here's the thing, okay, whether whether or not you believe that Gods and Goddesses are real or that these days are figments of people's imagination, it doesn't really matter all that much. Because what matters is that these these, at least, psychologically, but I would argue very much so spiritually, you know, and I have had lots and lots of experiences with different deities, that these are real. These are real intelligences. However, if you don't want to believe that, you could believe that they represent different forces in the collective unconscious, are real archetypes. And those archetypes could potentially be at conflict with one another. Okay, so you might not want Odin and a Frost Giant. So if I were to just say that these representations are mythological, archetypal constructs that don't really exist on a spiritual plane, which is not my truth, by the way, but you know, maybe your truth. And so I want to, I want to respect that you say that these are archetypal forces that that represent for 1000s of you know, at least several 1000 years, that represents absolute destructive conflict, and the forces of order and chaos being at battle with each other. And unless you really want that psychological representation in your home seems like a bad idea to me. You can do whatever you want, I'm just telling you, tell you my take and telling you what, you know, what might happen. I don't know of anybody that keeps altars to Frost Giants. I'm just using this as an example. But there are certain pantheons where the gods and goddesses don't necessarily get along.

You know, I know that they're certainly in some, you know, I've heard definitely heard stories in some African African traditions and I don't know enough about it to speak about the specific Pantheon or the specific gods and goddesses but um, you know, I'm just relating something from you know, somebody who has some experience with you know, African Magic in African spiritual work and relating is a story to me. Um, and then, you know, I, you know, so again, you know the other, the other thing is that altars can quickly become you can, you know, put, you know, have sort of the kitchen sink altar and I've at times been guilty of this, where you put everything on an altar, you know, I've seen altars that are just covered with stones and Oracle cards and images of angels and images of Native Americans and images of animals and images of this and images of that. And in that case, you know, you potentially run the risk of creating a an unfocused altar. And again, you know, an altar is a, to me is a specially prepared surface that helps create spiritual focus. And so if you have a junky altar that looks like, you know, looks like your local, New Age candle store with stuff strewn all over the place, that might not provide the greatest effect, it might not provide the focus, the spiritual focus that would be most beneficial to you. So it's just something to consider, you know, have a look at it actually had this great, this great exercise, and you can perform this yourself and you can perform it in your home, you can perform it with your altar, you can perform it with your workspace. And this comes from a neurological based coaching practice, where you would do an inventory where you would look around the room with a, if you're a coach, he would take your client and he would look around the room and look at every objects in the room one by one, and just talk about what is your first visceral emotional reaction to that object. And how strong that was, is it positive or negative Smithfield goods make you feel bad. So you can do that with your altar, you can do that with each item on your altar, and then you can do it with your altar as a whole, you can do it with different arrangements of your altar, okay. And emotions are closely tied to spirits. They are, you know, they, when we perceive, when we perceive emotions, they can sometimes be an indication that there is a spiritual disturbance or, or our spirit is doing really well. I can tell you that soul loss which is a breaking away of pieces of the soul body, usually due to trauma can come with severe depression, severe anxiety, dissociate dissociation, that sort of thing. So, those are sort of like the spirit body, the soul body, bubbling those things forward into consciousness through through emotions, and through, you know, sort of cognitive experience, how we're, how we're perceiving the world. So, perceptual experience, emotional experience, all of those things. So, those things are very closely linked. So, you can have you know, have a look at your altar space. So, again, you know, if you if this, if you listen, this podcast, you know, oh wow, you know, I would really like an altar space for X, Y or Z purpose,

you know, you can create one anywhere, almost anywhere you are, it does not have to be permanent, a permanent one is, is, you know, has some advantages, and I talked about that and how the spiritual energy sort of rubs off, it creates a vibratory field, if you will, or a field of spiritual energy. If you worship at the same altar day in and day out, you, you know, it becomes easier to worship there because there's sort of this, you wind up in the the aura of this object and objects do have aura. If you know of like psychics who do psychometry or find lost people or things or animals or you know, what have you. Frequently they'll hold an object that belonged to the person or the person war. And this is the same thing, the signature, the energy signature is rubbing off on the things they become, they become sacred. So an altar does not have to be a big thing doesn't have to be a ginormous table with a white cloth on it and you know, three foot tall pillar candles and gold plates and what have you does not, it could be simple. It could be surface with one thing on it or a surface with nothing on it. Frequently, we place things on the altar that help us denote the purpose that that put us in that create a psychological effect. And so want to talk a little bit about psycho spiritual effects of place and, and things and that any of that sort of thing. And this is, this is important. And it has been important to humankind forever. So when we find cave paintings that are 30,000 years old, you know, they're created in a way that creates a psycho spiritual effect, they're almost 3d by by torchlight, they appear to be moving, be created effect on the mind, which then creates an effect on the spirit. I remember that I have had there have been several occasions where I have noted almost being overcome by the psycho spiritual effect of place by the environment. One was I was visiting Cologne, Germany, and the the cathedral there is, gosh, breathtaking, unbelievable. Peace that's been, I don't know, I don't want to misspeak. But I think it's like 700 years old or something like that huge stone edifice. And when you walk into that place, it's dark, dark as a cave. And just immense and echoey. And there's, you know, flickering candlelight, and it has, it has a palpable effect on you. Even though I'm not a practicing Christian, I don't identify as Christian but the place the of the effect of the atmosphere on me, is you know, can be felt it could be felt. And undoubtedly, you've experienced this at some time in your life. And it happens, you know, when we're out in nature and we observe a beautiful sunset or we go to a you know, a special mountain or we view a an incredible Canyon or we walk into you know, we walk by a waterfall or what have you, the sight the sound the atmosphere creates certain psychological conditions that are, you know, can be felt that has an effect on spirit. So, your altar space can be like a mini version of that, okay. And so, when you if, if and when you create an altar, or you look at an ultra that you have,

you want to look at it with that in mind, thinking what is the it doesn't even have to be sort of, you know, really able to be put into words but you want to think about what is the effect you want to create on yourself with this altar, so when I'm, you know, when I'm teaching and I create the temporary altar, which is an altar cloth on the floor and lit candles and a vase of flowers. I want when people to come in to my class, to feel comfortable to feel like it's a place of beauty, to feel welcome, see the lights, see the candle light and have that sort of you know the effect of you know, we think about light as effect of feeling hope and positivity and all of those things. I want people to I want people to experience that. And so the altar, the altar space I create is designed in a very specific, conscious way to create a certain effect on people when they come in and to be a focus, it's in the center, when I teach, we set up in a circle, and it is in the center of the circle. So it becomes, you know, becomes an area of focus in the class, you know, when people are, you know, aren't focused on what I'm teaching, you know, some of their focus is drawn is, is drawn to this thing. And the collective energy of the class or the circle adds to adds the spirit of the altar, and then people put their sacred objects on them, and they become empowered by the group, and then when they bring them home, they carry that power with them. So you can do the same thing you can create, you know, in creative space and think about intentionally what's the space that you want to create, I have an ultra space that I use, particularly for New Moon ceremonies, in particular, you know, particularly with certain types of ritual and things that is much darker. And again, this, you know, dark doesn't necessarily mean, demonic or evil or bad, I think that is, gosh, that is just not a great way of looking at things. And I, you know, I think it was one of my first podcasts, it might have been the very first episode, where I talked about dark and light being two sides of the same coin, really. So, um, New Moon, which is when you know, the moon is dark, right, it's, you see nothing of the moon other, you could potentially see the outline of the moon, but you know, there's no Crescent showing, it's the opposite of a full moon is when the moon is going from its waning phase into its waxing phase. So it's a time of, you know, a time of rebirth. It's a time of fertile manifestation of, of change of all of these things. And so if we don't just read the darkness of we're scared of things we don't see and so we're going to project our demons into the darkness then it becomes it becomes it takes on a much different things so I have you know, I have work that I do with a new moon and a lots of people do full moon stuff. But you know, and I do that as well but I also do work with a new moon and I have an altar that is much darker, because it is meant to represent the darkness of the moon and the transition from waning to waxing and the transition from decreased to increase so is a very good time to do things like wealth rituals, or rituals around material sustenance, that sort of thing. So you know, it's meant to create a certain psychospiritual effect for me and it's something you know, creating specific effects with looks and music and incense and all of those things is is an area and you know, this is gonna sound like a brag and it is it's a little bit of a brag and I apologize, but it's something that I'm I'm fairly good at, at least from at least for myself, I don't know if anybody else looking at my alters would feel the same way that I do. But I'm I'm I've gotten better at creating the effect that I want using

using visual stimulus using different kinds of incense or using all of the senses. So you can do the same. You can use all of your senses. You can you know, if you can if it's safe to do so you can burn incense on your altar. You pay attention to what scent of you know what the scent of incense is what's the effect you're trying to create. You know you can reference all kinds of material out there that this incense is good for this and this incense is good for this. But I think like again, like with visual inventory, you want to use your senses if you don't if you don't like a particular kind of incense or you're allergic to it, I found out the hard way that I am allergic to burning mug words and some technicians burn mugwort as a way to smudge an area, and it causes my eyes to swell up and to turn bright red and look like I got punched in the eyes and, you know, my nose to run and become completely congested, it's very uncomfortable, so I don't burn my word. I don't mind the smell. But the smoke is really bad for me. Um, so you can choose things like incense, or even, you know, essential oils, or you know, what have you so you can use scent you sent, I'm in the process of creating my own instance at this point not to sell but for my own purpose, creating my own instance, based on based on an ancient Egyptian recipe that I love all of the components of. So I think together will be really nice. And I'm going to play with blends and things. So you can create scent, you can create visuals, when you're using your altar, you can potentially think about what sound you want to use there. If you're meditating, depending on your tradition, maybe you might have some music or chanting, playing, or you might chant or sing, or what have you. And all of these things can create a psycho spiritual effect. So if you think about religious ceremonies, you know, Buddhist or Catholic, or what have you, you know, they're burning incense in sensors, there's candlelight, you know, if you're at a temple, there's images of the gods and goddesses and there's, you know, there's people chanting, or there's people singing, very, you know, special songs, and that sort of thing. And all of this creates this effect that helps us focus, it helps us become feel closer to spirit, it helps us achieve particularly particular spiritual goals, or align our energy with a particular story, spiritual reality, or deity or what have you. So we can think about all of these things, when we think about our altars or creating an altar. I think it's a good thing, even if you don't have a, if you don't have a permanent space, or it's not convenient for you to create a permanent space. You know, if you have a shelf, or a drawer that you could use even temporarily, once in a while, you know this better than nothing, or if you have a cloth you can put down on the floor and put a couple of sacred objects on representations of things. Whatever you can do, I think altars obviously are good thing. I've got an altar crazy, but I, you know, I really I like them. And I think I think personal altars have such huge potential, because you create them to be, whatever, whatever you want them to be. If you want an ultra to help with meditation, have a meditation altar and pay attention to how it makes you feel when you sit in front of that altar. When you look at the objects on the altar, when you look at the placement of the altar, where is it? Do you have candles burning? Do you have incense burning? Do you use essential oils? For sense? Do you put fresh flowers on there? Do you make offerings. So offerings are another thing and I speak

all speak really briefly about offerings because that again, that could be a whole other podcasts. But I do have I do have altars that I use for offerings. And the offerings that I make are usually relatively traditional, for the you know, for the spirits that I'm working with. So offerings are always made to Two Spirit or to spirits, right? It's not just, you know, I'm going to throw some stuff on the ground or you know, what have you throw some stuff out there and whoever wants it can can want it like, your your offerings, you know, will be most effective if they are intentional, and there's lots of reasons to make offerings. For one thing, there is an exchange in spirit, right? One thing you might offer spirit is prayer. Like when you offer praise and prayer to daddy or spirits That is a type of offering, you are giving your attention and spiritual energy to that spirit. Okay, that is a form of offering. But usually when people are talking about offerings, they're talking about material things and certain spirits, like, traditionally, certain types of offerings. So I know very little about the practice of Voodoo. But I do know that there are spirits in Voodoo that are, you know, appealed to, or worked with, that traditional offerings are things like cigars and rum. And so, if you offered flowers to that spirit, it might not work the way you want it to work. When I make offerings to nature spirits, I, you know, I normally offer things that the, you know, the animals in the area will eventually, you know, potentially come and eat as well. So I'll offer things like seeds, I might offer corn meal. I don't I, you know, some people will do to, you know, offer tobacco to nature spirits, and that, you know, that's fine too, especially in the Americas, that's a traditional offering cornmeal and tobacco, or are really traditional offerings to spirits of place, and that's fine. I will offer tobacco too. If I'm, if I do a ceremonial fire, I will offer things to offer things to the Spirit of Fire and tobacco was one that I offer there pretty frequently. And I use, I don't use like cigarettes and stuff I use, you know, big tobacco leaves, because actually smells really good when it's burning, as opposed to the way cigarettes smell to me, which is nasty. So I use forms of tobacco and but that's really traditional, where I live. So spirits of place are really important and traditions of offering are really important. So for example, there are places where spirits of nature you would offer milk and honey, something I also do, I certain times make offerings, will say to the Goddess Hakata, which is a Greek goddess of sorcery, and many other things. And so, traditional offerings for her that I have done are frequently like eggs and honey, and incense. And obviously, you have to like if they're food offerings, you have to be careful about you have to be careful about you know, hygiene, things like that you don't want like rotting food. And there may be traditional ways of disposing of food if you're, especially if you have them on an indoor altar for any period of time. And you want to pay attention to that methods of of offering. So when you make offerings, there's usually a prayer that goes along with it that says, I mean, I'm dedicating somehow I'm dedicating these items to you.

And yeah, they're physical items, but in, you know, in shamanic belief, many other beliefs, everything that we see or experience has a spiritual component to it. So food has, food has a physical aspect, or wine or honey or flowers or seeds, or cornmeal, or tobacco has physical representation, but it also has a spiritual aspect. And the idea is that we're exchanging the spiritual energy of the thing we're offering for something you know, something in return, whether that's favor or attention, or you know, or what, you know, what have you normally it's for me, it's like favour or attention in sometimes in some traditions, you know, not to be too mercenary, but we're, you know, we're offering something to really get something in return. Like you know, you have a sick child or something paranormal is going on in my house. And by the way, making offering like if you do if you have paranormal stuff going on in your house, making offering offerings can sometimes be a really nice way of creating more harmony in your space. Creating a harmonious relationship with the spirit rather than trying to cast it out. Like, you know, it's like, oh, you have guests over and they're being a little raucous. Give them a meal, when they'll farmed out, kind of thing. So, so an altar can be a great base to make offerings. Again, I'll probably do a whole podcast on offerings, how to make offerings, what they are, how they relate to spirituality, but I just wanted to touch on that, because I do have a couple of altars that I use for offerings and one is outdoors. And I will very often place food on that altar that is good for the animals, the wildlife in the area, they'll come and eat it. And that's fine. I know that that's happening. That doesn't mean that the spirits of nature didn't receive that, because animals are part of the spirits of nature is that they took spiritual sustenance from those offerings that they took the exchange of energy, that I don't expect to get it back. In some traditions, people will eat the items that they have sacrificed. I do know, in places they will, you know, sacrifice, um, saying sacrifice, it is a sacrifice. When you give something up, it's a sacrifice. There's also the traditional word, you know, word meaning like, I've killed an animal, I do not practice that form of sacrifice. Nor do I place judgment upon people who do that in a traditional, traditional way, it's not for me, it's definitely not for me, I don't, I don't like it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to judge you, if that's part of your tradition. And in some traditions, they, you know, let's say they kill a chicken, you sacrifice a chicken, they offer up to Gods, but then they, they do actually, they do actually eat the, you know, they do actually eat the animal that's been sacrificed. Which I think is, is probably a little bit better. Because, you know, even though that material sustenance has been offered to, you know, spirits, or the spiritual sustenance has been offered to spirits, the, you know, the material, that animal might have been killed for dinner anyway. I don't know, I guess I you know, I'm not going to make moral or ethical judgments. On just say that I don't do I don't participate in any sort of animal or, you know, human sacrifice. I don't don't do that. is not part of my not part of my tradition, or makeup or anything like that. But there are traditions where, you know, there are traditions where that goes back hundreds, if not 1000s of years, and I can't really can't really speak to that without without placing judgment that I probably don't have a right to place. So with that, I have you know, been talking for longer than an hour. My coffee have my coffee here, it's probably probably a little chilly by now. Yeah, not too bad. It's still warm in my mug.

But I do you know, I would encourage you to consider keeping a personal altar as part of your spiritual practice. And consider the ways that you can do that. And, gosh, we live in the internet age where you can go on to Pinterest or you know, 100,000 other websites, and see images of people's altars and take inspiration from them if that is the thing you need to do. But to give you some guidelines about you know, really consciously thinking about what you might place on your altar, and paying attention to the psychological, emotional and spiritual effect, each item plus the collection of items if there's no more than one thing on your altar, really pay attention to that and the effect that it has on you and you can become then it becomes like a machine like a technology that can be tuned like that it's spiritual tech. Right can be tuned like a radio. But your what you're tuning is your feelings. you're tuning your psychology, you're tuning your spiritual effect, the altar, the altar is a tool. It is one of many tools. I'll discuss more in future podcasts. But this is a really powerful one. And when I was inspired to talk about today from some altar work that I had done with that, I will wish you all the love in the world. You deserve more love, not less and that doesn't matter who you are. I love you and you deserve more love, not less. You are beautiful whole and complete, just as you are. I would ask you not forget that and I will talk to you next time.

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Ep17 Nature Spirits and Faeries

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Hello, everybody.

My apologies, I have been a little bit remiss in putting out these podcasts, it's been a little while, I sort of did too close together back to back with guests. And you know, I, I'm not the kind of person to wear busy as a badge of honor. But I got incredibly busy. And so here is my triumphant return. I guess after a short period of time, I used to, I usually like to talk a little bit about what it's like where I am, I am talking to you from the state of Maine in the United States, it's early in the morning here, it's, gosh, it's 6:18am. As I read this, and I'm looking out in the sun is coming up and the birds are out and the small animals are playing. And one of the things I love to do, I feed the birds. And I feed the small animals around here, and I leave, I have a back deck that I look out over when I record these and I love to what I put peanuts out for the shell peanuts out for the Chipmunks and squirrels. And I've a little chipmunk that loves to climb up on my deck and stuff his cheeks full of peanuts, and it's pretty cute. And so why am I telling you this other than to give you a slice of a view into what I'm experiencing at this moment, which I think is important, right? I mean, I think you know, I don't get a good sense of who you are, where you are, other than your Look, your location, I can look at statistics and see that people are tuning in from all over the world. And I love that I love that. So I like to share a little bit of what it's like where I am, as I'm recording this. The ancients used to, you know, at least you know, in many, many cultures used to, you know, record astronomical observations. And I don't have to do that, because we have scientists and computer programs and all kinds of stuff for for doing that. Which, which is pretty incredible. The modern world is is interesting, and technology's incredible helps me talk to people all over the world. So today, I'm going to talk to you about a topic that's near and dear to my heart. And I'm going to talk in also leads a little bit from my introduction, I'm going to talk about nature spirits. And what do I mean by nature spirits? What are nature spirits? Where do they come from? What are their, you know? What are the cultural influences and all of those sorts of things. And I'm using the word, the phrase nature spirits, very, very broadly, as sort of this giant category of thing. It's as if I'm saying animals to refer to all the animals on the planet, right? From insects, to whales, to hummingbirds to human beings, you know, those are all animals. So there's a huge variety. And so it's a kind of a catch all phrase. And it's the same way with nature spirits, there's a huge variety of what we will call nature spirits, and I'm going to talk about that and obviously, you know, if you've listened to this podcast, you know that I come from a shamanic background. My my training and my spirituality is rooted in shamanism. And so I look at things from I tend to look at things from a shamanic perspective. This is not to say that my viewpoint is correct. If there is such a thing, it is my viewpoint and it's it's colored by my life. experiences, my beliefs, my practices, all of those things. And that's true for everyone. So I'm going to talk a little bit about different cultures today. And I'm not an expert, I'm not an anthropologist, I am just somebody who is encouraged, you know, through my spirituality, incredibly curious about different cultures, interpretations of similar phenomena. And so, if I speak incorrectly, you know, or I say something that's, that's a little out there, from your own belief system. That's fine. You know, that's okay.

take it for what it is, take it, take it, that I'm interpreting things through my own set of lenses, and you're interpreting what I'm saying through your own set of lenses. We all do that all the time with everything. And you know, if there's a correction to be made, you can contact me through my website or something, and I would be happy to, I'm happy to learn. I think that's a healthy stand point, right? to assume that you might not know everything, and that, you know, being open to learn, right come to things with a beginner's mind, you know, sort of a Zen idea. Right? In beginner's mind, there are many possibilities in the experts mind, there are few or none. So getting locked in, getting locked into our beliefs getting locked into our little reality tunnel, or reality box, we all live in a little box, which is bounded by our beliefs. So sometimes we can experiment we can try on different beliefs. You know, what if what if this were true? What if that were true? And see how that works for us. And that can help us grow as humans. So anyway, I digress a little bit. I'm going to refocus now. And I'm going to talk about nature spirits. And what do I mean by nature spirits. So from a shamanic perspective, right, shamanism is an extension, I guess, from animism, which is the idea that all living beings have spirits. Even, you know, some animists I happen to be one of them, believe that even nonliving things have spirits. So, things that we would consider nonliving rocks and streams. You know, even there is a, you know, a spirit of the internet, there's a spirit of everything. And it's again, like that's a viewpoint, right, that's a that's a point of view that I take that I address everything as a spirit, my car is a spirit. And that, you know, that might be a little shift to I don't think of things as having spirits, I think of them as spirits. So in my viewpoint, I'm everything there is is a spirit. Some things that exists have a physical presence have a physical projection, okay? So what that means is that, you know, if I'm looking at the tree outside of my window, that tree is a spirit that also projects a physical presence of a tree. But not everything that is a spirit has a physical presence. And so, this is where we get into the idea of nature spirits. So what am I talking about with nature spirits. So, nature, spirits are spirits of place, spirits that live sort of between worlds between what we consider the middle world in shamanism, which is the spiritual overlay of physical reality. And they, and they belong and they sort of belong here, right? They're not their native, they're native to this space. So there are as many I can't even think of all of the terms for the different types of nature spirits, but if you think about mythological beings, for a moment, excuse me. Almost every culture you can think of has some concept of what they would call little people, right? Little People as fairies, elves brownies, greenies trolls. In Hawaii they have the minute hooni the African shaman mala dama samay talks about the contemporay from his culture. in Southeast Asia, Indonesia, they have the orang pendek, which are the little, little people, which I'm not sure may have a physical presence or not. Again, I'm talking about cultures that I'm not native to. So I'm only going to speak as an outsider from from that perspective, but gosh, you know, all of these cultures that may or may not have had contact at some point in history, have this idea

of little spiritual beings. You know, and tons of them tons and tons and tons of them. If you think about if you think about these, if you think about the fairies, right, you know, fairy faith is still strong in some places in you know, what we would consider the United Kingdom and Ireland. Right, so the British Isles area. Um, you know, I know places, Iceland, for example, trolls are very real beings, they're trolls and elves, and that sort of thing. very real, very part of the culture. So what's know what's going on here? Are these just figments of people's imagination? Are they archetypal? Meaning that all of these cultures just spontaneously came up with these, you know, ideas of these little people that can flit in and out of view and can do magic and, you know, sometimes communicate with people sometimes, you know, make offerings or, you know, all of these, all of these ideas. What's going on here? So, in my perspective, in my view, these beings are very real, and they live in a place that is very, very close to physical reality. They live in what we, in the shamanic perspective, call the middle world, which is, again, it's this spiritual overlay of 3d physical reality that we experience with our eyes and ears and sense of touch. And that sort of thing. This wasn't always the case for me. I mean, you know, in English anyway, the word fairy tale has taken on the meaning of something that is untrue. Right, so fairy stories, fairy tales, they generally refer to, you know, mythological tales that we tell to children to teach moral stories or that sort of thing. But also, you know, if somebody is, you know, telling you a story that you think is untrue, you might say, that's a fairy tale. That's a fantasy, you have made that up in your imagination. Pardon me, and that used to be my perspective, that, you know, this was all made up, and I saw the, you know, watch the Tinkerbell movies about fairies, and, you know, the Disney perspective. And, you know, these things have really woven themselves into our culture. And they've always, you know, they've always been there. As far as we have written history. There are, you know, lots and lots and lots of history of interactions, you know, things written down, interactions with nature spirits with with the faith with the fairies. And I'm sure that's true in many other cultures that I'm that I'm not even, you know, not even aware of. Right. Certainly the, you know, there are legends in Hawaii, about the men who in a building things overnight building, you know, giant walls overnight, or temples or, you know, that sort of thing. And I don't, you know, I don't know the truth of those things. But these are very real beings in many, many cultures. And it's only sort of recently that we have said, No, there is nothing beyond the physical reality. You know, these, you know, when you're telling stories of these supernatural creatures, and I wouldn't call them I personally wouldn't call them supernatural. I think they're very natural. I think they they exist. So I'll tell you. You know, I'll tell you about a couple of my personal experiences that sort of drove home that these Are these are not necessarily made up beings. And, you know, I promise I am not having a psychotic break, I'm sitting here I am sitting here drinking my coffee, which is which is delightful

to have a little coffee when I do these, particularly because I usually record them in the morning. Um, so, you know, one story that I have this, you know, this happened to me personally, I used to, I used to live in Boston, Massachusetts in the US and I used to I trained in martial arts my whole life. And I used to train in this dojo, which is a dojo, if you don't know is a place where, you know, you go train Japanese martial arts. So is training in Japanese jujitsu, in this dojo, which was in the basement of this building. And I was training with my friend Jimmy one day, and we were the only two in this particular room in the stojo working together, and my teacher had stepped into the other room to, to do something. And you know, Jimmy and I were training and this little, I want to say little, you know, Little Green Man, that's gonna sound like I'm talking about an alien. And it may be that aliens are our, our, you know, our thing. And our nature spirits. Who knows, I don't know the truth of that. But this little man who was had sort of a greenish tint, was wearing sort of normal human clothes, but was about two feet tall. I saw him come running through the room, and run right through the back wall of the dojo, where we were training. And at first I thought, you know, I'm just seeing things that's not real. And my friend turned to me that I was training with he goes, did you see that? And I was like, Yeah, what did you see? And he described it to me as like, that little man just ran through here and ran through the wall. He looks solid to me. Like, it didn't look like a figment of my imagination, or a ghost or anything like that. And I was like, wow, I saw the same thing. How could that be, you know, it was really weird. And then my teacher, my teacher walked into the room and said, What happened? A little guy that just came running through here. So three people had seen the same thing. You know, one of them had not been listening to the conversation we were having. So you know, something, something clearly was going on there. And then, you know, later in life, I'm, you know, started studying shamanism. And I would journey and I would journey into the middle world, and I would realize that, oh, gosh, there are these nature spirits, everywhere, everywhere, it's crowded. The earth is a crowded place. And My take is that the ones that we sometimes see are, you know, are either able to sort of manifest in the middle world. And then you know, these are the ones that sort of normal, when I say normal, I mean, people not like me, normal folk, folk who are not practicing trance work or, you know, traveling to non ordinary reality like, like shamans do. There are experiencing beings that are very, very close to having physical bodies, or that have the ability to shift in and out of physical form in the middle world. Right. So for me, it's just a matter of like frequency about being able to tune to a certain frequency like when I when I do a shamanic journey, when I enter trance, I can you know, what, what's happening is my brainwaves are getting tuned to a certain frequency that allows me to perceive things that I normally wouldn't perceive, right, in 3d ordinary reality. And when I've done that, I have met all kinds of spirit beings in the middle world. nature spirits in particular, I remember meeting a being one time that was, you know, said something to me, you know, appeared, appeared female, and said, I sing the trees to sleep at night. And I was like, well, that's kind of poetic and interesting, but you know, trees are not

trees around animals, they don't sleep. And then within a week or two, there was an article that appeared in some nature journal about the fact that trees in fact do sleep. They do have sleep cycles, which I totally did not know, before, beforehand, you know, they, they have a, you know, it's obviously not sleeping in the same way that we think of animals or humans sleeping, but they do have these daytime nighttime cycles. So, um, you know, my brain was making making some sense out of some information, you know, I sing the trees to sleep at night my brain was making some sense out of some interaction with with a nature spirit, and, you know, which turned out to have some scientific background to it. So over the years, I've encountered, you know, lots of different nature spirits. And so, over this past weekend, in fact, I, I put, I put a small altar in a wooded area of my property I live on to the nature spirits, because I think it's good to particularly honor the spirits of place. You know, certainly they're in, in the fairy faiths, you know, in the places where they still make offerings to fairies, and that sort of thing. They can be seen as guardians, and they can, they can help protect your land, your home, you know, that sort of thing from calamity, right, protect you from fires and natural disasters and that sort of thing, and keep an eye out on things. And if they're unhappy, you know, certainly, they can let you know that as well. A lot of lot of weird things can happen, things can go missing, things can break, electronics can go wonky, it's, you know, it's an interesting thing. I've certainly experienced sort of both sides of that, and I would never, at this point in my life, having the experiences that I've had, I would never move to a place or have, you know, you know, live in a place where I have not made some contact with the spirits of place. And so in, in Norse belief in ancient Norse belief, you had the land veter, right, which landvetter are the spirits of the land? Okay, and then, um, you know, even in Taoism, you know, when you look at Fung Shui, which is, you know, a lot of people think Fung Shui is about situating furniture in your house. And that, you know, was certainly part of it, from my understanding, but it is also about geomancy it's also about looking at the flow of energy, in a place in situating things in such a way that they're in harmony. And I find that a really beautiful way of of looking at things because when you can get to the when you get to the point where you can perceive spirit and you can perceive energy and, and that sort of thing. You realize that there are flows and stoppages and different frequencies and that sort of thing. So I want to talk a little bit about the middle world as well. Because it's an important consideration. From you know, I do when I teach shamanism and I teach shamanic journeying in particular, we always caution people about the middle world a little bit, because it is a little bit like the frontier of the western United States back in the day, when before it was really settled, it was a wild place full of dangers. And you know, some people were friendly, some people were not, and, you know, that sort of thing. So, as I said, the middle world is full of spirits. You know, it can sometimes appear crowded, actually, interestingly enough, if you're, you're never alone. That's one. You know, that's one thing. So think about that, you know, before you litter or pollute something or whatever there are. There are people watching and as I say this, there's a chipmunk just came up on my porch and he stuffing peanuts into his cheeks and a crow just flew into my yard. So, these are, these are great omens, these are, you know,

you know, lovely, lovely spirits of nature with physical bodies that are that are showing up to say hi to me this morning. So the middle world is a very crowded place and you know, I I was taught about it, it's sort of like moving around in a foreign city that you're visiting for the first time, right? And you don't necessarily know where the good neighborhoods are the bad neighborhoods, or, you know, if there are pickpockets in one location or kidnappers or, you know, or where they're friendly folk, or, you know, that sort of thing. So I do caution people to be a little careful in the middle world. You know, and when we teach journeying in the middle world, we teach some safety protocols for that. The other the other aspect of the middle world are that there are spirits that I wouldn't necessarily consider nature spirits there. So when you hear stories about ghosts, or, you know, just Carnot humans who are, you know, quote, unquote, trapped here, you know, that, that part of them that is trapped here is is trapped. You know, stuck is a better word, it's not trapped. There's nobody trapping them here. People sometimes get stuck. Because they're, you know, they're killed in it's a surprise or they're not ready to pass on or there's some, you know, there's there's a myriad of reasons why human spirits get stuck in the middle world. So there are, you know, there are suffering spirits in the middle world. When, you know, when shamanic practitioners encounter these suffering spirits, even though they can sometimes appear scary or angry or be doing something that we would consider harmful. We tend to treat them like clients because they're their suffering beings. Right, and they deserve compassion. And so, we do work frequently. That's called psycho pump work. And psycho pump is a word word that is, you know, it comes from the Greek, which is sort of the, it means sort of the conveyor of spirits. Psycho, you know, even though we, we get the word psychology from it, and tends to mean mind in, in English anyway, psycho is actually a word that means spirit in Greek. And so psychology actually would be the study of the Spirit. But, you know, we know it as a study of the mind. And so psycho pomp is, you know, an individual could be non human individual, but an individual that helps shuttle spirits to where they're supposed to go. So if you think about Greek mythology, you can think about Karen who has the boat across the river, you know, Rose the boat across the river sticks, you have to pay the ferry man to shuttle your spirit to the afterlife. Okay, so they're, you know, if you think about Norse mythology, you have the Valkyrie, who worked for Odin, who took his, you know, the people that were going with him after battle up to Valhalla. So there's, you know, there's psycho again, there's this cross cultural many, you know, lots and lots of different cultures have this idea of a psychopomp. Well, in, in most, you know, most shamanic training, if you're trained as a Shimano shamanic practitioner, you do learn to do psychopomp work, because we, you know, we have this sort of equal vision of all spirits. So, again, we would treat discarnate human humans as as if they were clients and help them you know, we don't, we don't banish, we don't bottle spirits up, we don't enslave spirits. Any of those, any of those things, I know, there are cultures where that is. That is the thing where they, you know, they do that, you know, and I don't want to, I don't want to cast judgment, so I won't hold back. I would just say that that's not something that I personally would do, and or, you know, anybody in my tradition would would do that. So, I

will leave that to, I will leave that to you to the difference between sort of enslaving and capturing, and enshrining, there are cultures where spirits are enshrined. And they're sort of free to come and go and sort of, you know, that kind of thing. But, you know, shamanism takes a very level playing field view. It's not Um, you know, I am the king. I'm the king of the castle, I work in tandem with helping spirits. Some of those are middle world spirits sometimes. Um So anyway, back to nature spirits, I realized I go off on a lot of tangents. But I hope that's interesting. I hope that when I expand on the topic and go off in a little direction, that it's not too confusing and that you find it interesting. Because that's just how I am. That's just how I choose to talk about things. So, you know, I'm very, very curious about nature spirits and how they show up. And one of the interesting one of the interesting phenomenon to me, is that, again, there's this description of little people in many, many different cultures, right? The men are hooning in Hawaii, the fairies trolls, elves. I guess trolls aren't necessarily little people, but elves sometimes are perceived as little people. Sometimes trolls are. You know, leprechauns, certainly, all kinds of beings are perceived as little people. brownies, Greensleeves is another one, or not Greensleeves? I'm sorry, that's the song. Green coats is another word for them. Which is interesting because the first nature spirit I ever encountered, I can remember encountering was was wearing a green coat. Before I knew that, that was a thing. So you know, what's going on with this little you know, this little people? Why are they perceived as small? Are they actually small? Are they smaller than we are? So, the answer to that is a little bit complicated. One answer I will give you is that they're, you know, in journeying and doing shamanic journeying. nature spirits are all different sizes, from teeny tiny little beings, you know, the size of your you know, half of your thumb to giants, you know, giants are another thing right giants are lots and lots of different cultures have have this idea of giants. And whether there were physical giants or you know, just you know, the idea of you know, spirit beings that that are just really huge You know, that's been my experience I've experienced some very large spirit beings so if you journey in the middle world, you'll encounter nature spirits that are all different sizes that are small and tall and human size and you know, animal size and all kinds of stuff. Many of them take on many of them appear humanoid, I won't necessarily say human, because they can be very different morphologically, they can be very differently and have you know, for example, be sort of short and stout. Like I don't know a little little chubby elves. If you think about the I don't know if they have this in other countries but in the US we have the keebler elves that make cookies and live in a tree you know, is it's a brand of it's a brand of snacks and cookies that are you know, they created you know, commercials with these little little chubby outs so there's that there's a very long limbs there are creatures that appear to be part plant and part animal and you see the Green Man in Celtic culture right Who is this you know, usually pictured as like a face with leaves growing out of it kind of thing. I've experienced similar similar in nature spirits and I don't know for sure that the Green Man is a nature spirit, I'm just saying the appearance appearance wise. This This seems to be

the seems to be something I have encountered countered beings that are close to that. And, and so, you know, some of them fly and some of them swim or live in the water, and some of them walk on land. So again, there's this huge variety, right? There's this huge variety of these nature spirits. Most that I have encountered have been humanoid, but not all of them, certainly. And there are these. There's the idea of mythological creatures as well. So, you know, from dragons to, you know, sort of non human, non human mythological creatures? And do these exist in the middle world that I'm not sure about? I don't know, I haven't I haven't encountered a dragon in person. I suppose that would be really interesting thing for me to explore. But dragons seem to be part of every culture as well. So there's probably something there. Right? You have, you have certainly dragons appearing in European cultures, you certainly have dragons appearing in East Asian cultures. So, um, and, you know, how does that how does that happen? I know, I don't know. I mean, unless there's some sort of cultural, you know, cultural exchange of the idea of Dragon or it's an archetype or, you know, I don't even know. So, is it possible that, you know, dragons are spiritual beings that exist in the middle world, I suppose. Right? I do know, people who have encountered dragons in journeys, usually not in middle world realms. So there are, there are places where you can travel in journey where there are, you're more likely to encounter mythological beings. But there's sort of more ethereal than then kind of middle world and then there's, you know, in you know, I'm thinking of the, you know, St. George, the dragon slayer in, in, you know, the patron saint of, I think it's the patron saint of if it's England or London specifically, I think it's England, the patron saint supposedly slayed slew, right. slue is the past tense of slay, I don't know, slew a dragon. So that's kind of an interesting thing to explore, as well, like what you know, and in certain, certainly in European stories of, of dragons, and when we see like, Tolkien themes, you know, the, the Hobbit and all of those stories, you know, dragons are not necessarily nice beings. They hoard gold and all that sort of thing. And so I think they're, you know, there's some, there's definitely some cultural overlay there as well. We're in, you know, some East Asian cultures, dragons are seen as protectors, you know, and, you know, as protective spirits. So, I don't know, there's certainly some cultural overlay. So my experience with the nature spirits is that they, you know, the temperament really differs, right? It's just like human beings. You know, just like if you're wandering around, and, you know, a city, you don't know, if you're journeying in the middle world, and you encounter nature, you know, nature spirits. Some of them will be indifferent to you, they don't care that you're there. Some of them would be curious, like, Hey, what are you doing here, you can see me some of them will be overjoyed to meet you. Some of them will be angry that you've interrupted them, or, you know, entered their space without permission or without an offering or that sort of thing. So it's best to be careful about these things. And there are lots and lots of cautionary tales. Among the cultures that follow, sort of fairy faith or believe in little beings, or that sort of thing, and there are lots of you know, there are lots and lots of recommendations about leaving offerings or don't step into a circle of mushrooms or don't trot along certain trails or, you know, that sort of thing. My advice is, you know, just like if you are traveling to a foreign country,

it is important to do your best to respect the culture and respect the rules of where you're traveling. Okay, even though we live in the middle world, when we Trump along like we're the only beings here you know, you can you know, you can cause damage right if I just you know, walk around throwing my garbage everywhere you know, I'm I'm causing, you know, I'm causing damage and that's not right. So, in a fight, traveled to a foreign country, I tried to learn a little bit of you know, if, you know, they speak a language I don't understand, I'll try to learn at least a little bit. So I can get around, I will read about customs. So I will try not to do something that's deemed offensive. Um, you know, I will respect the locals, I will respect the law, I will, you know, embrace with curiosity and love and kindness. You know, people who offer up bits of their bits of their culture, right, people like to take pride in their culture have people come? If people come visit me, in Maine, for example, I, you know, we have a you know, I'm surrounded by beautiful nature and an amazing coastline with beaches, and rocky shores, and islands, all of those things. And they take pride in that, and I'd like to show people around. And so it's, it's kind of the, it's kind of the same thing. You know, with nature spirits, some of them are, you know, they're all you know, they all live here, this is their home. Right? The reason why they're nature spirits is that they live in nature they live in, you know, the world that we, that we look out at and consider nature. And, you know, so this is their home. And so it's important for us to respect that. And, you know, my work in shamanism shows me that we're, you know, there's this sort of infinite web of all living things. You know, of all spirits, and we're all connected. So if I disrespect if I, if I pollute, or I don't recycle, or I do all of these things, that's harming the earth. Like, I'm part of that web. I'm part of that net, I'm not disconnected, I'm not separate. And so respecting those things, at you know, even from a selfish superficial level is respecting myself, right, I'm affecting the world that I live in. So yeah, when you, when you walk in nature, when you go in nature, go in reverence. Right, show show, show, respect, whatever that means. Leave nothing. But footprints was sort of the, the camping motto, when I was when I was a boy, and I was in the Boy Scouts, right, we always left a place. At least as pristine as when we got there. Sometimes, you know, if we got to a camping spot or something, and some people had trashed it, we would clean it up. Right, we would leave it better than better than the way we found it. So the lesson there is how do we how do we as humans leave places better than when we found them. And it's hard because we make an impact just by living on the planet by eating food. It doesn't matter if you're, you know, it doesn't matter if you're vegan, you know, and, you know, power to you, if you are and you only eat, you know, you try to make as little impact as you can, you're still making an impact your food still has to be grown somewhere. fields have to be plowed. You know, territory has to be taken up to grow the food that you eat. Um, so we do make we do make an impact. So how do we, how do we look at that? How do we lessen that? How do we live in better harmony in you know, it's really about the small choices that we make? Do we choose to recycle? Do we choose to compost? Do we choose to, you know, participate in beach cleanups in our area? Or do we just treat the earth as if it's disposable? And, you know, and make the make the nature spirits angry at us, we don't want to do that.

When we live in harmony with them, they will take care of us. You know, most of them will take care of us they will they appreciate it. When you make offerings and offerings, you don't have to change your belief system, you know, or believe you know, or or do nature worship or become a shaman or practice animism, any of those things by making offerings. Um, you know, it could be simple, you could feed the birds, right, I have a bird feeder, and I feed the small mammals in the area, you know, put up put up That I'm very conscious of that are healthy for them. And it's especially important where I live over the winter, where a lot of birds have trouble. You know, have can have trouble finding food. So I do put, you know, I do put food out for them, especially in the winter. And it increases, you know, there's, there's research to show that increases the survivability rates. So, you know, I'm taking care of the animals and taking care of the environment, I'm very keen on recycling and, you know, taking a stance on things, you know, trying to be as ecological as I can be. But also keeping in mind that no matter what I do, just the fact that I exist on this planet, and I use electricity, and I use have to use fossil fuels for the time being, I don't have any other way to, to get around, I would love to own an electric vehicle. But that is, you know, a little outside of my price range at the moment, but someday in the near future, I'll be able to reduce my impact on the world. So it's about making conscious choices, it's about choosing, you know, choosing things that, you know, if given two choices, I, you know, I try to make try to make one that is less impactful. if you so desire, you can, you know, actually, you know, leave real offerings for nature spirits, you know, really, I find to, you know, you want to honor the spirits of place, and so we're, we're, I live this, you know, I live on land that was traditionally occupied by the wabanaki people, you know, at least you know, that my understanding is a big Confederacy of people, wabanaki people and, you know, one traditional offering for this area might be cornmeal. Right. And so I do, you know, I will offer cornmeal in this in this area, simply because that's a historic offering, right? That's something that has gone on here forever. Sometimes, I will also offer Mead, which is honey wine, you know, I'll put out a little cup of mead as an offering, in honor of my ancestors who were, who were Scandinavian, and you know, that sort of thing. And, you know, some other, you know, some other offerings as well. You know, like I said, I put out food for the birds So, if you so desire, you can put out offerings for nature spirits, and that seems to be a big part of animistic culture all over the world. And you know, it's, it's a way of living in greater harmony with the nature spirits that are around you, that are around you. So I hope this has been you know, I hope this has been interesting and certainly somewhat enlightening, enlightening about nature, spirits and what they are, and they have always been here, they will always be here, you know, time doesn't have as much meaning in time and space don't really have as much meaning in the spirit world. And that's sort of why sometimes these nature spirits appear appear to us as being small. But they do come in all different sizes and shapes and forms and that sort of thing. There's, there's quite a variety. Anyway, you know, I will leave you with that. I will get back to recording these on a more regular basis. I wish you all well, and we will talk to you next time.

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